Arrival of the Post-Petroleum Human (196)

pm196_550“Petroleum Man is dead. Infinite Growth Man is dead. Post Petroleum Human is alive,” announced Michael C. Ruppert on May 22, 2011. Members of this emerging “species” know they must live in balance with the Earth, while remembering the lessons of industrial civilization.

The star and subject of the documentary film “Collapse”, Mike founded CollapseNet.com in 2010 to empower people to connect and relocalize. He’s the author of Crossing the Rubicon, and Confronting Collapse.

Watch his full presentation at Green Living EcoFest, May 2011: “Birth of Post-Petroleum Human.”

Watch Mike’s 2006 conversation Pondering our Post-Petroleum Future, Episode 28.

Watch video | Audio | iTunes | Transcript | Janaia’s journal: Meeting up with Mike Ruppert and Dmitry Orlov

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  1. Gavin S. says:

    Let me start off by saying Thank you Mr. Ruppert. You were the first one to put me on the path I am now on (and the path is good!)

    ~However~

    However, you are breaking your own rule right now and it is a shame. “Until you change how the dollar works you change nothing.” – M. Ruppert ..Great line and it is 100% true.

    Now why in the world are you hoarding much needed information from the public by charging to see all your information?!
    Collapsenet prices are somewhat reasonable, but you have turned your website into a money making tool. The website use to be great, but now you are trying to make as much $ as you can off it and you are not getting the information out to the people(which is what your so called purpose is). Every time I go to your site more and more stuff requires $$. This video for example – you charge, one click away and its free on another site.. dude..

    Get a haircut and lose the hat.. people will stop calling you crazy..

  2. Dear peakmoment – a little correction, the website is CollapseNet.com, not CollapseNet.org.

    Also I want to make a remark on the interview – I think it would be more appropriate to speak of cultures than of human species. The Cro magnon people are not a different biological species than the “petrol man” or the “post petrol man”, but they are of a different culture. Likewise the shifts called for in this interview are cultural shifts, not shifts that would be defined as the creation of a new species. Other than that, thumbs up for the interview!

    Dear @Ed Adamthwaite, I have a recommendation for you (and for others following this program). It is the new three part documentary by Adam Curtis called “all watched over by machines of loving grace”, in which he explores how it came that we think now of biology in terms of machines acting out on a sort of programming and he hints to that being not that easy and also he points to that not being a healthy attitude if taken too literally and as the only guideline. Especially part 3 of the short series is relevant to your description of humans as ones and zeroes (and twos and threes). Another topic of interest may be “epigenetics” which add to the complexity by allowing a feedback of the environment on the “programming”.

    Greetings, Aurora

  3. Ed Adamthwaite says:

    Oh, and another thing, Michael was “partly right” in saying that life isn’t based on digital ones and zeroes, it’s actually digitally based on threes, twos, ones and zeros. The DNA strand is a digital base4 system from which information is used via subsequent steps to generate analog values of enzyme intensity (and a heap of other things) from which proteins and RNA molecules are formed. Adding to that, the in-vitrio process which involves the forming of the spine for all vertibrates is a step and repeat process with variations accurring depending on the count (or intensity of a substance depending on the count). This is exactly analogous to a process used in Object Oriented computer programming. As a programmer that has a side interest in biology, I was absolutely gobsmacked when I first realised the relationship, a real spine tingling moment.

    Also, the nerve signals that cause movement of muscles appear to be frequency modulated pulses that become more intense as more force is required. Damn! Those ones and zeroes again!

    I know the above info will really disappoint the people of a mystic bent. I find that the more I learn about how things work, the more I find that the different areas of science have synergies with each other and the more wondrous it is. There are more parallels in the universe the more I look. The answers derived purely from intuition just don’t cut the mustard when compared with the amazing stuff discovered by science. And guess what? The scientific stuff can usually be repeated and is verifiable.

  4. Ed Adamthwaite says:

    Hi Janaia,

    Another great interview, Michael hits the target with a bulls-eye nearly every time. Having ploughed through “Crossing the Rubicon” and having the Collapse DVD, all I can say is “bring it on.” It won’t be pretty, it won’t be easy and it will be as the old Chinese proverb says “may you live in interesting times.” His work has predicted and very accurately mapped the process of our civilisation’s crash.
    For a humous take on this see “A Post-Oil Man” on YouYube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QovBLFZhQME
    The only part that worried me was 9min 20s into the interview where Cartesian logic is rubbished along with the scientific process in general.
    It is not the science that has put us into our predicament, it is the misuse of science by the people who control the funding, the banksters, plutocrats, dictators, corporations and governments. You cannot blame Einstein for Hiroshima just as you cannot blame him for Fukashima. After all, he did say something like “nuclear fission is a hell of a way to boil water.”
    There is a big danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater because of a distinction that appears to be too subtle for many within the alternative mindset to grasp. One thing is for sure, you’ll all be calling on the local boffin to fix your water pump when it breaks down. Mumbo jumbo won’t suffice. We’ll still need an understanding of all of the sciences in the new paradigm. Michael suggests this, but it in doing so seems to contradict what was said earlier. After all, intuition can only go so far and can easily revert to fear and ignorance when unscrupulous types take advantage of it. It is the very likelihood of this that could put us back into another version of the dark ages. We need to add science to somewhere within the concept of separation of powers to guard against it. This is not to say that concepts of spirituality are bad, just that everything has it’s place.
    A relatively new science is with fungi, with mycelium and it’s interactions with bacteria and other organisms. It can enhance soil and shows the possibility of being able to clean up all sorts of pollution, even radioactive fallout, an absolute necessity to open up areas for food production that have been ruined by disasters like Chernobyl and Fukashima. I recommend Paul Stamet’s “Mycelium Running” as an essential read for anyone involved with agriculture and forestry, wether large or small. This a great example of where the scientific process is beneficial when directed in an ethical manner. Another topic for a Peak Moment interview?
    But that’s by the by, it was a quality interview with a quality message. Thank you Michael, Janaia and Robyn.
    With kind regards,
    Ed.

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