Oil and Gas – The Next Meltdown? (130)

pm130_640ASPO-USADrawing parallels with the current financial meltdown, Matthew Simmons expresses his alarm about gasoline stocks being the lowest in several decades and refinery production down following recent hurricanes. He warns that if there were a run on the “energy bank” by everyone topping off their gasoline tanks, the U.S. would be out of fuel in three days, and grocery shelves largely emptied in a week. In an interview plus excerpts from his presentation at the Association for the Study of Peak Oil (ASPO-USA) conference on September 22, 2008, Matt highlights the risks and vulnerabilities in the finished oil products system, and answers questions from the audience. Episode 130. [simmonsco-intl.com, www.aspo-usa.com]

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  1. If and only if I have anticipate and watch the oil and gas shortage trends from the beginning, I would have a windfall stock gain from oil and gas stocks all over the world.

    Seriously, I think the trend will still emerge.

    Oil price is now $83 already is’t it ?

    Remember how much was the low ?

    Its around $50 i think, thats less than 1 1/2 year back.

    Soon we will see it mark cross $100

    Mark my wards for it.

  2. What I’m guessing is that they are just holding it together, with 1967 -1970 stock levels , as long as no one panics? With the suppressed/depressed economy demand has dropped, so maybe this level is fine for now?
    They have to start making heating oil soon don’t they?
    With the credit crunch I bet a lot of large users of heating oil will not be able to borrow the money to buy oil now, so will have to pay spot prices in the middle of winter “going to the mall” might not sound so warm in 2 months.

  3. so.. this is October14th.. have not heard a word about this..
    is the south still out of gas??
    gas prices in washington state – down to 3.08$ a gallon……

    is there still a concern? or is this past?
    thanks
    cds10690@yahoo.com

  4. http://oilcrash.com/articles/tipping.htm

    TIPPING POINT

    by Perry Arnett

    Integrate these concepts:

    1) Cheap, readily available, high content Energy, with 2) population explosion, and 3) Carrying Capacity.

    The integration is, that with the advent of the cheap, readily available supplies of high content energy, world population was able to soar, and thus EXCEED ecological carrying capacity. While population is now at an extremely high level — compared to the non-fossil-fueled past — (and continuing to rise), and the carrying capacity is already ‘overshot’, now feed-in an irreversible DECLINE of the cheap readily available energy that got us where we are. Do this integration now, in real-time.

    Universal ‘decline’ is the only possible future.

    The finding and exploitation of coal, oil and natural gas as it was done has created a box canyon for humankind that was not foreseen at the early times. In other words, we had a Grand Chance and blew it! We ‘spent our capital’ (oil), rather than ‘living off the interest’ (renewables). We procreated like bunnies thinking that extant energy sources were perpetual. Having spent that capital, it is now both too late to stop population increase (without a catastrophe like war or pandemic) OR develop renewables. So, in order to reach population numbers BELOW carrying capacity, there must be a Dieoff that forcibly lowers living standards and population numbers until some level of sustainability (‘carrying capacity’) is achieved. That will cause living standards for most to drop back to a par with those lived pre-1930 for sure, and probably more akin to the era 1200AD to 1860 or so.

    Human civilization cannot live off ‘renewables’ unless the population numbers are below the carrying capacity of the environment. Some suggest this number to be around 500 million or so, as opposed to the 6.3 billions alive now. When living standards descend to that point where an equilibrium between consumption and carrying capacity is reached, and a balance-in-nature is achieved, then life can go on for those who remain. But to try to replace the amount of energy provided by fossil fuels now with other, more diffuse forms of energy, the numbers show there is a massive shortfall that cannot be found, created, dug up or wished-to-be from anywhere… there is no Horn of Plenty overflowing with more oil and natural gas once the current supplies are gone!

    Thus, as world energy sources deplete, the world macro-economy must slow down until it finds that natural balance between the available energy needed to drive it, and the size of the economy that energy will allow to exist. As the economy slows, jobs vanish; as jobs vanish, living standards decline; as living standards decline, everything declines — and then you have the exact OPPOSITE of what most of us here have experienced throughout our lives: NO-growth; decline, diminution, loss, etc.

    This hydrocarbon bonanza (coal, oil and natural gas) from say, 1700 to 2030 or so, was a one-shot thing; Nature gave us a Hershey Bar and we ate it! When it’s gone, it’s gone. Even though there may be about 1/2 the oil left that there ever was, it will be consumed much faster than the first half was. So much faster, in fact, that for our purpose here, — about all that’s left for most of us is the memory.

    Most are unaware of this. When most DO become aware we will reach a ‘tipping point’: a point where the teeter-totter-of-life changes position from where it was — to where it must go. At that point there will be severe gnashing of teeth and wailing in the streets and all that comes with that. We can either believe it now, or believe it later.

    Why are we not told about this from the government, or our employers, or our city councils, etc.? Because no one wants to be the one to cause the ‘tipping point’ to occur! As long as the reality can be withheld, or muddled, or glossed over, then the tipping point will be delayed; but that only makes the time of awakening worse… the longer we go until the tipping-point-of-awareness is reached by the masses, the worse it will be.

    When the tipping point occurs, it will be suddenly realized by all, that there will be no more reason to build roads, or fix existing roads, or build university buildings, or put braces on your kids teeth, etc. ALL perceptions of life-in-the-future will change, and most all economic activity that is deemed farther out than say, next week, will cease. Ninety nine year contracts will be a relic of a by-gone era; pensions and annuities will cease; cash will become king; and when that fails hard money will reign. When the public becomes fully aware of all the facts and the relevant conclusions to be derived from those facts, the phrase ‘new paradigm’ will have true meaning.

    Most of us didn’t get the opportunity to learn any of this in high school, or to connect all the dots if we did study it, so it comes as a bit of a shock to most when they realize the implications of the principles and the facts. But the principles are founded on good biology, good geology and good economics. The facts are available if any choose to peruse them.

    “It will be in no one’s best interest to factually report the reality of the decline of fossil fuels once it begins in earnest.”

    Perry Arnett
    Inventor/consultant

  5. Matt does a great job of explaining how bad things are, the sooner this gets back on YouTube the better ‘we’ need all the help we can to get the word out … come on ASPO USA stop acting like ‘the man behind the curtain’
    I’ve already sent copies to our (New Zealand) government.
    Thanks for your efforts
    Good luck
    Robert

  6. What happen to the video? Did Youtube delete the video so not to create a panic. The coincident with the financial panic is to be expected as the first place the effects of peak oil will show up in the financial markets. Remember, it takes energy to drive an economy!

  7. Hey all,

    It looks like world energy TV also has an interview with Matt Simmons on his perspective on this topic. http://www.worldenergy.tv/ 🙂

    Cheers,
    Logan.

  8. Matthew Simmons delivers his warning very cleverly using analogies and language of the current economic crisis. His message is true and a family member of mine has been exposed to a brief glimpse into what he describes.

    My cousin lives in Nashville, Tennessee and this last week she mentioned they had a run on their fuel due to rumors of hurricane derived shortages. She said it was a bit apocalyptic with police called to gas stations to calm conflicts around refueling tankers. I guess refueling tankers had to start delivering in the middle of the night. The only way my cousin was able to get fuel was to start looking at 4 am and after 16 empty stations she found one station that still had some premium left. You can read her tale at http://simplyaubs.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/we-have-no-gas/

    I managed to convince her to buy a dependable used bike. 🙂 I hope she gets some use out of it. She was scared enough to take shortages seriously. Now if I can only convince her to store a few weeks of water and food! 🙂

    Thank you Janaia for your fantastic coverage of this conference! Those of us who were unable to attend sincerely appreciate your and Robin’s efforts! 🙂

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  1. […] Oil and Gas – The Next Meltdown? Drawing parallels with the current financial meltdown, Matthew Simmons expresses his alarm about gasoline stocks being the lowest in several decades and refinery production down following recent hurricanes. He warns that if there were a run on the “energy bank” by everyone topping off their gasoline tanks, the U.S. would be out of fuel in three days, and grocery shelves largely emptied in a week. In an interview plus excerpts from his presentation at the Association for the Study of Peak Oil (ASPO-USA) conference on September 22, 2008, Matt highlights the risks and vulnerabilities in the finished oil products system, and answers questions from the audience. […]

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